New polls: TX WI Dem pickups: (None) GOP pickups: AZ GA ME MI NV PA Sorry, another day with not too many items. The ones we do have are on the long side, and took a while
to put together, especially the debate item.
The Supreme Court is following a non-standard schedule this week, releasing opinions on Wednesday, Thursday and
Friday. We only learned this after Monday's post—in which we described the usual Monday/Thursday
schedule—went live.
Yesterday, the Court delivered its opinion in Murthy v. Missouri, which is the case filed by people angry
at the Biden administration for asking problematic social media posts to be removed. Here's lawyer-reader
A.R. in Los Angeles:
Another day, another Supreme Court rebuke of the Fifth Circuit. The offense this time was to find that government
communications to some social media outlets amounted to "coercion" to remove certain content, which violated the
plaintiffs' first amendment rights. Not so fast, says the Court in a 6-3 opinion.
Associate Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote for
the majority that the plaintiffs, five social media users and two states (Louisiana and Missouri), lacked standing to seek a
preliminary injunction. The Court, therefore, reversed the Fifth Circuit's decision affirming the preliminary injunction
granted by the district court. Notably, the plaintiffs' suit did NOT include, as defendants, the platforms that allegedly censored
their content. The Court first noted the high burden on the plaintiffs to succeed on a motion for preliminary
injunction; they must show: (1) a likelihood of success on the merits and (2) irreparable harm without an injunction. The
Court then pointed out that the lower court allowed "extensive discovery" and that the record included over 26,000
pages, and implied that the plaintiffs seemed to want the Court to dig through that information to find the requisite
connection between their allegations of censorship and government action. The Court reminded the lower courts and the
parties that "judges are not like pigs, hunting for truffles buried in the record."
The plaintiffs could not establish that the platforms' efforts to
demote or otherwise censor the individuals' posts had anything to do with governmental communications with social media
platforms, so the plaintiffs could not meet the standing elements of causation, traceability or redressability. The Court
found that the record showed that platforms like Twitter and Facebook had moderation policies in place long before
agencies began communicating about the pandemic and misinformation campaigns.
Critically, the Court specifically did not express any opinion as to whether the Fifth Circuit applied the correct
standard to determine when the government's communications "transform private conduct into state action." So, with the
election coming up, while this case gives the government some breathing room, I imagine agencies tasked with ensuring
election integrity and security will be somewhat more circumspect in trying to rein in misinformation on social media.
Barrett did note, however, that mere communication is not enough—it must be "coercive" or "significant encouragement."
Good thing they cleared that up.
Note that this decision doesn't end the case, but given the Court's holding, the government should succeed on a motion
to dismiss on remand.
Meanwhile, if you didn't follow the news yesterday, you might wonder how the Court could release half a decision.
Well, in Moyle v. Idaho, also known as the EMTALA case, the Court is deciding whether or not parts of the Idaho
ban on abortion are in conflict with a federal law requiring that emergency care be rendered to all patients, with
no exceptions. Yesterday, employees of the Court
accidentally posted
a draft of that ruling. It's improbable that someone wrote an entire fake Supreme Court decision and somehow got it posted,
so it's likely that the accidental posting is similar or identical to the actual decision, and that the actual decision
will also be a 6-3 decision nominally in favor of abortion rights. Here is A.R. again:
Another leaked abortion case—despite the press on this, I do think this was an honest error by the information
office. They will probably release it officially today (and maybe even intended to release it yesterday but pulled it
back for some reason).
It's another punt on an abortion rights case right before an election—coincidence? As (V) and (Z) like to say,
"we report, you decide." In Court-speak, the majority holds that the stay they granted earlier this year was
"improvidently granted" so they are lifting the stay and will let the case play out before it comes to them again. This
means that the lower court's injunction of the Idaho law remains in effect for now, and women will be able to get
emergency abortion care.
Barrett, if the opinion remains the same, wrote for the majority and held that the changed circumstances since the case
was filed, such as the legislature exempting specific procedures from the law's reach and the Supreme Court narrowing
the definition of "abortion" under the law and broadening the allowed exceptions, justified lifting the stay because the
injunction "will not stop Idaho from enforcing its law in the vast majority of circumstances." She also notes that the
government conceded that the conscience objections apply here as well and that an emergency abortion can never be
required solely due to mental health reasons. The clear implication is that both of these laws can co-exist.
Barrett concludes that granting cert before judgment was an error here. Ominously, she hints that another avenue raised
only on appeal should be pursued more fully in the lower court: "...whether Congress, in reliance on the Spending Clause
(sic), can obligate recipients of federal funds to violate state criminal law." So, we can look forward to the Court
finding another way to gut reproductive rights when the case inevitably comes back to them—just as soon as this
pesky election is behind them.
We will add a bit more reading-between-the-lines here. From the decision, it is clear that there were four votes to
resolve the case on the merits, right now. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson was ready to strike down the Idaho law, while
Justices Neil Gorsuch, Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas were willing to invalidate the federal law. Had any other
justice been willing to make a finding on the merits, then we would have had a final decision right now, as opposed to a
punt.
Undoubtedly, Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan are on Jackson's side. However, neither of them chose to force
a resolution. The only plausible explanation is that they know when a final decision is made, it's going to go against
them. So, they made a choice to at least delay that outcome, and extend protections for some small amount of abortion
access. Meanwhile, the remaining conservatives chose not to force a resolution either. The only plausible explanation,
as A.R. suggests, is that they didn't want to give the Democrats more ammunition to campaign with. So, the indications
are pretty clear that when the Supreme Court finally deals with this case for keeps, it's going to be either 5-4 or 6-3
to curtail or strike down the federal law and uphold the Idaho law. Kagan and/or Sotomayor could have forced a
resolution now, and made the conservatives own it, but they clearly felt the lives that will be saved during the delay
were more valuable.
There are 9 more decisions remaining. It's unlikely that the Court will do such a massive dump in just 2 days, so
the calendar will probably be extended into next week. Of course, the one that everyone is looking for is the
presidential immunity case; a late release today would maximize the distraction provided by the debates, while
minimizing the potential for the moderators to ask a question about the decision. So, keep your eyes peeled. (Z)
Today's the day. Here's a rundown of the various debate-related stuff that is percolating as the countdown
to the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump reaches zero:
What to watch for: The mainstream media are not always the most creative folks.
Consistent with that, there was a plethora of "things to watch for" pieces yesterday. Here are a few of those
lists:
There are some clear recurring themes. The ones we see are: (1) The impact of the new format, (2) How well the candidates
deal with the hot-button issues, (3) Biden's age and Trump's temperament and (4) Who produces the most meme-y moments.
Does It Matter?: On Monday,
we wrote
that "[T]his week's presidential debate could be the most impactful in recent memory. Maybe the most impactful ever."
On Tuesday,
we explained
at some length why we see it that way. After the Tuesday post went live, we got a number of e-mails pooh-poohing
the notion that this debate will be meaningful, or that any debate will ever be meaningful again.
Time will tell, of course, but the preliminary indications favor our viewpoint. The Associated Press/NORC published
a new poll
yesterday, finding that 60% of U.S. adults are either "extremely" or "very" likely to either watch the debate live,
watch clips after, and/or read coverage of the debate. Meanwhile, 74% of respondents think the debate is either
extremely important or somewhat important to Biden's campaign, while 68% think so for Trump's campaign. PBS
News/NPR/Marist also released
a new poll
covering the same ground. Their numbers say that 61% of U.S. adults expect to watch part or all of the debate while 24%
will follow the news coverage. They did not ask a follow-up question about importance, however.
The Other Debate: As chance would have it, there was
a debate
in the U.K. last night. We felt we would be remiss if we didn't at least mention it. According to the pundits we looked
at, PM Rishi Sunak came out swinging and handily outdueled Leader of the Opposition (and soon-to-be PM) Sir Keir
Starmer. According to insta-polls, the debate was a draw. Either way, nobody doubts that Sunak and the Conservatives are
going to take a drubbing when the U.K. votes next week. It might be July, but the PM's gonna be all wet.
The Other Other Debate: There are actually going to be two debates tonight. Although it
may be more accurate to say a debate and a "debate." Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who was denied a spot at the grown-ups'
table, is staging his own debate, which he calls "The Real Debate." It will take place in a Los Angeles studio, will
start at the same time as the Biden-Trump debate, and will be streamed on eX-Twitter and on a website that the Kennedy
campaign set up for the purpose,
TheRealDebate.com.
It is not clear who, exactly, Kennedy will be debating. Maybe the voices in his head.
No Fact-Checking: CNN
announced
that it will not do real-time fact-checking during the debate. That's not much of a surprise; it's difficult to do that
properly under time constraints.
We all know who will benefit from this decision, by not being called out on his constant stream of lies and falsehoods.
Nonetheless, Trump got on his low-traffic social media site to complain about how this is a conspiracy against him:
Crooked Joe Biden's "Handlers" are loudly and profusely complaining that there will be no Fact Checkers during the
Debate on Thursday. Actually, that is just DISINFORMATION—They could not be happier, because there is nobody
that's as loose with the TRUTH as Crooked Joe. From the 51 Fake Intelligence Agents, to Russia, Russia, Russia, to the
Fake "Suckers and Losers Story" he created about our beloved Military, to cheating in College and saying he was first in
his Law School Class when he was actually LAST, to claiming he marched for Civil Rights, drove trucks, and has a 6.2
Handicap (He can't hit the Golf Ball 10 yards, but that's a minor detail!), and so many more falsehoods, the man is a
walking LYING MACHINE, and a Fact Checker's DREAM. Maybe we should call him "Lyin' Joe" in addition to Crooked?
The amount of projection that Trump does really is remarkable, even after all these years.
Very... Fair?: Despite the endless claims to the contrary, CNN has, by all indications,
played things down the middle. And, as NBC's Chuck Todd
pointed out yesterday,
the debate environment is set up to give Trump every opportunity to look presidential. He will not easily be able to
talk out of turn, nor will he have a boisterous, Trumpy crowd to goad him into going off the rails.
Todd is right about the fair environment, we think, but the impact could potentially cut both ways. If Trump isn't being
fed by the things that normally feed him, he might be very flat. Or, he might compensate by being even more over the top
than usual. And if he's running wild and there's no crowd noise—which works as a signal to the viewing audience about
how they should be responding, like a laugh track does—then it looks extra strange and inappropriate.
Don't Count Your Chickens: Plenty of commentators,
like Rex Huppke of USA Today,
still think Trump isn't going to show up. If so, that would be a bold move, indeed. The base would see it as "sticking
it to the establishment," presumably, but would any other voters feel that way? Or would it make the non-base voters see
Trump as a coward who can't handle the heat?
Over the weekend, we still entertained the possibility of Trump bailing out, but we now think it's 99% he'll be there.
However, the former president's habit of missing debates did remind us of one thing: He is going to be rusty. In the
last 7+ years, he's debated a grand total of two times, given that he skipped one of the presidential debates in 2020
and all of the Republican candidates' debates this cycle. Trump rarely subjects himself to questioning from anyone,
other than people who will feed him a steady diet of softballs. His debate prep has involved zero mock debates. And this
new format, with no opening statements, means he won't be able to warm up by reciting a pre-scripted set of remarks. The
first issue could be abortion, could be the economy, could be his criminal conviction—he has no way to know. So,
he could stumble out of the gate.
Note that some of these things also apply to Biden, but at very least he has to deal with the press corps on a regular
basis, and he's been prepping with actual mock debates. So while he could stumble, too, he's at less risk than Trump is.
Very Stimulating: Republicans are absolutely falling all over themselves to try to curry
favor with the Dear Leader. And they seem to have decided that "Biden is on drugs" is an excellent angle for doing so.
Earlier in the week, we noted Rep. Ronny Jackson's (R-TX) threat to send a letter to the President, demanding he
take a drug test before and after the debate (Jackson did send
the letter,
cc'ing it to every member of the Cabinet and to VP Kamala Harris, presumably on the theory that it would persuade them
to invoke the Twenty-Fifth Amendment and remove Biden).
In yesterday's post, we added to the list Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO), who appeared on several cable networks to peddle
his theory that the mind-altering substance that Biden is using/will use is Mountain Dew. As part of that, we wrote
that "we would actually advise against Mountain Dew because the amount of caffeine in one of those is enough to cause
jitters." Quite a few people wrote in to point out that Mountain Dew is not more caffeinated than coffee (and is not
much more caffeinated than the Diet Cokes Trump guzzles), and that if it causes jitters, that would be due to excessive
consumption or because of the tremendous amount of sugar (almost 50g) in a single can. We will defer to the expertise of
the readers; the last time (Z) drank Mountain Dew (the 1980s), the drink was in an arms race with the now-defunct Jolt
Cola to see which could incorporate more caffeine.
In any case, yesterday, Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN) went and did Jackson and Burlison
one better.
He's introduced a bill (which will never see the floor of the House, of course, much less become law) that would require
Biden to file a report anytime he takes any mind-altering stimulant. Coffee? Report. Tea? Report. Chocolate bar?
Report. Tiramisu? Report.
Reader M.S. in Las Vegas, NV, suggests that Biden take lemons and make... Mountain Dew out of
them, writing: "At the start of the debate, I'd love for Biden to say something along the lines of: 'Water? I was
promised some high-caffeine Mountain Dew! I thought that was part of our secret agreement, Jake?'"
Toady Watch 2024: The candidates are allowed to have some level of entourage accompany
them to the debate. Obviously, security details and close family members are included, but who else? Earlier in the
week, Trump implied that his would-be running mates would be there, too. Not so, as it turns out, as they are not
included as part of the approved entourage. However, the RNC
is hosting
a watch party down the street from where the debate is being staged, and Sens. J.D. Vance (R-OH), Marco Rubio (R-FL) and
Tim Scott (R-SC); Reps. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) and Byron Donalds (R-FL); Gov. Doug Burgum (R-ND) and former HUD Secretary
Ben Carson have all indicated they will be there.
More Sports: We ran a lengthy list of sporting events yesterday, and... were once again
reprimanded due to our exclusion of UEFA EURO 2024 fixtures. In fact, the first round of that tournament concluded
yesterday, while the round of 16 will not commence until Saturday. There are no games today. We confirmed that
before posting yesterday.
That said, we did miss the U.S. Olympic trials in gymnastics and track and field, the presentation of teams in the Tour
de France (the actual race starts Saturday), a pickleball tournament in Orange County, CA, and a red-hot mah-jongg
tournament in Scranton, PA. Of course, these things could only possibly matter if they are broadcast after 6:00 p.m. ET
today. With that in mind, it pretty much narrows the list down to a half-dozen baseball games, three WNBA games, and the
Copa América match between Uruguay and Bolivia.
Prop Bets:
BetOnline
is an offshore sports book that accepts bets from the United States. Whether that is legal or not is an excellent question.
In any event, to get some publicity, the book is offering a bunch of prop bets on the debate. Here are a few examples,
along with the implied odds:
Whose first answer during debate will be longer? Biden 56%, Trump 52%
First to mispronounce politician's name: Biden 75%, Trump 33%
First to interrupt a moderator: Biden 25%, Trump 83%
First of these phrases to be uttered: They hate our country 62%, Black lives matter 44%
First issue to be mentioned: Border 70%, Democracy 38%
Mentions of the word "dictator': Over 7.5 54%, Under 7.5 54%
Falsehoods from Trump: Over 15.5 67%, Under 15.5 41%
Use of "folks" by Biden: Over 4.5 54%, Under 4.5 54%
The percentages don't add up to 100% because the house's cut (the vigorish) is incorporated into the odds.
Bingo!: For our part, per readers' requests, we have put together a couple of related
games. First, thanks to all the readers who sent in suggestions; we narrowed our bingo squares down to these 30
possibilities:
Abortion
Any Asian country
Any European country
A president other than Biden or Trump
Biden: "Come on, man"
Biden: "Fascist" or "Fascism"
Biden: "Malarkey"
Biden: "Prescription drugs"
Biden: Trump's conviction
Border or immigration
Candidate told not to speak out of turn
Complaint about debate rules
"Corrupt" or "Deep state"
COVID-19
Hunter Biden
Inflation or cost of living
"Netanyahu" or "Hamas"
January 6
Any Biden Cabinet member
Any First Lady
"Presidential immunity"
"Pride month" or "LGBT"
"Putin" or "Zelenskyy"
Reference to any Constitutional amendment
"Ten Commandments"
Trump: "Best or worst [X] ever"
Trump: "Unfair" or "Unfairly"
Trump: "Witch hunt"
Trump: Any wild animal
Trump: Talks into silenced mic
A few guidelines:
For anything without quotation marks, any clear allusion to that general topic will count. So, for abortion, for
example, any use of that word, or Dobbs or Roe or "reproductive choice," etc.
For anything with quotation marks, the exact word or phrase (or a close variant of that exact word or phrase) has to be used. So, "Putin" counts but "Russian leader"
does not. "Corrupt" or "corruption" count, but "abuse of power" does not.
For anything with a candidate's name, it only counts if that candidate says or does it. Otherwise, it can be either
candidate or the moderators.
Inadvertent references count. If Trump talks about "Hillary's e-mails," she's a first lady. If Trump mentions
Vicente Fox, a fox is a wild animal.
If you wish to play Bingo on your own, or with fellow viewers, we've put together a set of 30 Bingo cards you can download
here
as a PDF.
It doesn't work to run a sitewide Bingo game; there would either be a 100-way tie for first, or we'd have to create so
many variant cards it would take hours to score. So, for those who want to play a sitewide game, we've put together
something we did once before. With help from a group of readers, we've rated the 30 items from most to least likely to
be said/to take place during the debate. You have to pick six things you think will be said/will happen at any time
during the debate. Riskier picks are worth more points, safer picks are worth fewer. If you want to participate,
make your picks
here.
Don't forget to include your initials and city, and to answer the tiebreaker question.
Incidentally, we could use a couple more volunteers to help us with "scoring," by which we really mean "identifying
when the various things on the list occur." If you're willing, let us know at
comments@electoral-vote.com
Where to Watch: Just to run it down again, there are lots of ways to watch the debate.
To start, reader
G.L. in Schenectady, NY,
advises that the various online TV listing services, like
titantv.com,
do a good job of listing exactly what national and local stations will be carrying the debate.
That said, Schenectady is only about 200 miles from the Canadian border, so maybe take that advice
with a grain of salt.
There are plenty of streaming options. Here are a few of them:
The four major broadcast networks, along with all the CNN properties, MSNBC, Fox "News," Fox Business, NewsNation, C-SPAN 2,
Bloomberg, and "News"max are among the national broadcasters that are set to carry the debate. Cartoon Network has not
announced their programming schedule yet, so maybe them, too.
Finally, because we know some readers want a reminder, here are the details again for the chat being hosted by
B.J. in Arlington, MA:
When you sign up, set your "display name" to your initials and location, like on the Electoral-Vote.com weekend posts, so we can
recognize each other and also to preserve everyone's privacy. For example, I've set mine to "B.J. in Arlington, MA."
After accepting the invitation to join the chat room, join the #debate-june2024 channel. The direct link to that channel is
https://electoralvote.slack.com/archives/C079ASY9EBU.
I'll be in the room on Thursday, as soon as I get my kids
to bed (which may or may not be by 9:00 p.m. ET).
B.J. tells us that 40+ readers have already signed up.
Insta-poll: "Oh," as Columbo might say, "just one more thing." We put together a short
insta-poll
for readers to complete after the debate, if they are interested. It's four questions:
Who do you think HELPED themselves with this debate performance
Who do you think HURT themselves with this debate performance (note that you may select up to two options)?
On a scale of 0-100, where 0 is "no effect," 50 is "a moderate effect," and 100 is "a profound effect," how much do you think this debate will affect the presidential race?
Do you have a comment on the debate?
If you care to participate, please get your response in after the debate is over (obviously) and before 2:00 a.m. ET. We'll
reveal the numbers and we'll have some reader comments in tomorrow's posting.
Wisconsin went for Joe Biden, 49%-48% in 2020. Texas went for Trump 52%-46%. So, both these polls are pretty
much right in line with the last election. (Z)