Eight Republicans descended on Milwaukee yesterday, hoping to advance their presidential hopes (or other agendas).
With relatively little camera time for each person, and in a hyper-competitive circumstance, it's not too surprising
that things often turned nasty. You can watch it
here
if you missed it, and you still want to see it.
This is the first debate this cycle, so we will take this opportunity to remind readers that we do not read or listen
to anyone else's opinions/analyses before we do our write-ups. That way, we are not unduly influenced by the views of
others. Maybe, once we do take a look at some other commentators, we'll be on the exact same page as them. On the other
hand, maybe our comments will be way out in left field. Anything is possible.
We're going to start with a half dozen general observations:
No Trump? No Problem: Had Donald Trump attended the debate, as opposed to doing whatever
it was he did with Tucker Carlson—and note that we'll watch the debates, but we ARE NOT subjecting ourselves to
that—then he would have dominated the stage without telling us anything new. His absence, then, gave the other candidates
a chance for some actual camera time. And with him not there, he actually got mentioned relatively little. The moderators
asked a question about the situation in Georgia, but beyond that, even Chris Christie didn't talk about the former president
all that often.
Look Over There!: Speaking of the situation in Georgia, that was one of several issues that
the candidates did not wish to touch with a ten-foot pole. Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum actually showed a live shot of
Fulton County Courthouse, said that Trump would be arraigned there in about 12 hours, and asked the people on stage for
their opinions. Nary a one uttered the phrases "Georgia," "Fani Willis," or "election fraud," among obvious possibilities.
In essence, they just vaguely expressed their opposition to the weaponization of the Justice Department (conveniently
overlooking that Willis is not a federal official), and they had a quick airing of views as to whether a former president
should be subject to the Constitution. Vivek Ramaswamy was the most extreme, damning all the various prosecutions as
shams and saying he would insta-pardon Trump on becoming president. Christie and Mike Pence were the most... lawful (?),
asserting that no man is above the law. It's hard to take these "differences of opinion" all that seriously, though,
because when the candidates were asked if they would vote for Trump even if he was convicted, six of them definitely
raised their hands, while Christie halfway did so. Only Asa Hutchinson did not.
In short, there was no real comment on the charges in Georgia, for the obvious reason that nobody particularly wants
to alienate Trump and his base, but nobody particularly wants to endorse racketeering, either (well, except Ramaswamy).
To take another example, the moderators tried to get everyone to raise their hands if they believe that climate change
is caused, at least in part, by human activity. To the relief of those on stage, since this is another issue where there
is no "good" position for a Republican presidential candidate, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) hijacked the question before
anyone could move and blathered on about the Florida coast for 45 seconds. In the end, the only person whose position
was made clear was Ramaswamy, who announced loudly that his hands were squarely in his pockets and who called climate
change "a hoax."
Lines of Attack: It was expected that the major clashes would be between Ramaswamy and
DeSantis and between Christie and (the absent) Trump. Again, Christie largely left Trump alone. And DeSantis and
Ramaswamy barely butted heads at all. So, the major clashes (and they WERE major) were between Ramaswamy and three of
the other candidates on stage, namely Pence, Christie and Nikki Haley (more below).
Lies, Lies, Lies: If we tried to document and refute all of the dishonest statements uttered
on stage, we'd be here all night and then some. If that is what you would like, see
The New York Times,
USA Today,
Politifact,
and/or
CNN
(though note that none of those outlets tries to be comprehensive, as it would just be too much).
For our part, we'll note that the folks on stage are not generally prone to telling outright falsehoods, the way that Donald Trump is.
However, they are prone to very aggressive deployment of politician lies. For example, you generally shouldn't trust a
statistic if it comes from a politician, and you definitely shouldn't trust it if it comes from one of these eight politicians.
DeSantis is probably the worst here, as when he claimed that crime dropped to a 50-year low during his governorship, while
neglecting to mention that the rules for reporting crimes to the state were changed, such that 40% of Florida police
departments stopped sending in their data. To take another example, Pence claimed that 70% of Americans favor a ban on
abortions after 15 weeks, while failing to note
that poll
was an extreme outlier, was structured poorly, and was the work of a pollster (Harvard/Harris) that has had a clear
right-wing skew in the last several years.
Another common kind of politician lie is the "personal anecdote." Anecdotes seem like proof of concept, and they
can be very difficult to either confirm or disprove. That's not to say that all personal anecdotes are false or
misleading, mind you, but they have to be taken with multiple spoonfuls of salt when they come from a politician. The
one that, in particular, did not pass the smell test for us last night came from DeSantis. He claimed that he met a
woman named Penny who, as an infant, survived "several" unsuccessful abortions, and even then only because her
grandmother recovered her from a biohazard waste bin and took her to a hospital to be resuscitated. Maybe it's true, but
it's very hard to swallow, and we can find no trace of this person, despite the fact that she should be all over the
place, courtesy of the anti-abortion crowd.
Mediocre Moderators: To their credit, Baier and MacCallum did not limit themselves to
softball questions, and asked some actual toughies. On the other hand, they did not enforce discipline very well,
particularly when the "time's up" bell had sounded. Had Trump been there, it would have been even worse. Further, as
noted, the hosts did a terrible job of forcing the politicians to actually answer the tough questions. Also, Baier in
particular is far too prone to editorializing from a conservative perspective, which is problematic for someone who is
at least pretending to be fair and impartial.
Get Rid of the Audience: We understand why Fox wanted a large, raucous audience, as it
contributes to the ratings-grabbing feeling of debates-as-bloodsport. However, too much time was spent waiting for the
people in the peanut gallery to shut up. Further, their cheers and boos serve to undermine the integrity of the debate.
If there has to be an audience, it would be nice if they were somehow separate from the politicians, such that the
audience microphones could be muted as needed.
Moving along, let's talk a bit about each of the eight candidates. We would propose that, in the debate, they had two
jobs: (1) make an argument for why they should be president, and (2) make themselves likable—or, at very least,
"presidential"—to the voters. Just for comparison's sake, we're going to give each candidate a score in each of
these two areas. We think #1 is considerably more important than #2, so we'll give 0 to 15 points for the argument and 0
to 5 points for the personality. And with that said, here are our reviews, in the order in which the candidates were
"ranked" (and thus, the order in which they were placed on the stage, with #1 DeSantis at the center, #2 Ramaswamy to
his left (stage left, that is), #3 Pence to DeSantis' right, and so forth:
Ron DeSantis: His argument for the presidency (and note that we're going to paraphrase for
each of these opening sentences, as opposed to quoting directly) is "I've implemented a (far-right) conservative agenda
in my state, and I can do it nationally." To adapt the old Biden line about Rudy Giuliani, every sentence out of
DeSantis' mouth contains a noun, a verb and "Florida." We guess that's the best he's got, though it means he is
ignoring all the politics experts who say that people in Iowa want to hear about Iowa, and people in New Hampshire want
to hear about New Hampshire, and nobody (except maybe the people in Florida) wants to hear about Florida.
The obsessive focus on Florida brings two, somewhat related, problems. The first of those is that DeSantis is largely
unable or unwilling to speak to issues that aren't germane in Florida—like, say, corn subsidies. The second, and
we think more significant, of those is that he has not provided any meaningful information about how he's going to take
what he did in Florida (where he has a pliant, GOP-dominated state legislature) and translate that to Washington (where
he won't have that). That said, at least he does have policy proposals. On argument, we give him a 7/15.
As to likability, DeSantis is never going to engender warm fuzzies in anyone. That said, he was actually... OK last
night. For whatever reason, his voice wasn't as nasal as usual and his face wasn't as squinty as usual. Further, he did
virtually nothing that was in his leaked script, and yet was still credible. He gets a 3/5 here, which is probably
his ceiling.
Vivek Ramaswamy: His argument for the presidency is "I'm young, and we need fresh blood
in Washington." Ramaswamy mentioned over and over how he is far and away the youngest person in the field, and the only
one to be a Millennial. He also made clear that he is as Trumpy and far-right as it gets.
The response to Ramaswamy was reminiscent of the response, in 2020, to Andrew Yang. That is to say, both men enjoy the
support of a small but hardcore segment of the primary electorate. In Ramaswamy's case, that was clear from the audience
response every time he spoke last night. But like Yang, Ramaswamy has a low ceiling, and isn't ever going to move beyond
that. Unlike Yang, Ramaswamy doesn't care.
Indeed, while Ramaswamy nominally talked about fresh blood and generational change, the only thing that was really on
his agenda last night was showing off his attack-dog skills. He fought early and often with the other candidates, regularly
delivering below-the-belt cheap shots. One example, among many, was when Ramaswamy crowed that he was the only candidate
on stage who was not "bought and paid for." It could not be clearer that he is not running for president at all, he is
auditioning to be Trump's VP (or, failing that, a member of Trump's cabinet). On argument, we give him a 2/15,
since he's not really making an argument for the presidency at all.
As to Ramaswamy's personality, there's only one word that comes to mind: obnoxious. He also has a nasal voice, and
on top of that, he talks too fast. His incredibly high opinion of himself emanates from every pore of his body. And
his snotty attacks on his colleagues may be what the hardcore Trumpers want, but they came off as cheap and contrived.
One of those attacks, in fact, was a snide comment about how "scripted" the other people on stage were, at a time
when it was clear Ramaswamy was the most scripted of them all. So, add "hypocritical" to our list of criticisms.
On personality, he gets a 0/5, only because the rules we established don't allow for negative numbers.
Mike Pence: The former VP's argument for the presidency is: "I'm the best prepared for
the big job." Maybe that is true, since he's served as a governor, a member of Congress, and a part of the executive
branch. It was very interesting to hear him take credit for the main accomplishments of the Trump administration
(like the tax cut and the NAFTA update), conveniently ignoring the fact that everyone knows VPs have no real power
and that he was an outsider for most of the Trump presidency.
In any event, Pence has no meaningful policy ideas, unless you count a federal abortion ban (which isn't happening) as a
policy idea. The main story last night, for him, was all the sniping between him and Ramaswamy. On argument, we give
him a 5/15.
As to personality, Pence has none. He's just about the blandest politician this side of Jeb! He wasn't actively
unlikable last night, but he was neither likable nor impressive. He had more speaking time than any other candidate
(12:26), and said nothing particularly interesting, funny or memorable. He gets 2/5 from us.
Nikki Haley: It won't matter in the polls, and in fact she might sink a little, but Haley
put forward the best performance of the night last night. Her argument was: "Politics is the art of the possible." There
can be no doubt she's a Republican, as she made clear her anti-abortion bona fides, her willingness to support the
Party's presidential candidate, etc. But she also pointed out that Republicans and Democrats are both responsible for
the deficit and the national debt, while also arguing that a Republican president has to focus on what's possible when
it comes to abortion policy, as opposed to committing to the fondest wishes of evangelical Christians. Republican voters
tend to prefer "pie in the sky" as opposed to "hard truths," which is why Haley might suffer in the polls. But if she
was to somehow get the GOP nomination, she'd be the most electable candidate on stage. On argument, she gets
14/15.
On personality, Haley wasn't unusually likable, but she was very presidential. Even if you didn't know the respective
candidates' résumés, you would still know she laps the field when it comes to foreign policy, as she
explained in detail why abandoning Ukraine is a bad idea. She also handled the various male aggressions well, so
thoroughly parrying Ramaswamy that he looked for a moment like he was going to blow his top. We give her 4/5.
Chris Christie: His case for the presidency is "I can work across the aisle." He dwelled
at length on his record in New Jersey, and his time as a U.S. attorney. All of this has nothing to do with taking
down Donald Trump, and everything to do with actually running for president. Meanwhile, as noted, Christie largely
did not lay into the former president. Add it up, and perhaps he's shifted from his previously stated goal of
crippling Trumpism, and has begun to convince himself he might just win this thing. The problem is that he offered
no policy ideas. Further, Republican voters weren't buying whatever it was he was selling in 2016; what has changed
now, except that he's now a flip-flopper extraordinaire? Christie's argument gets 6/15.
As to personality, Christie's shtick is that he's the brash New Jersey guy, who's likable in the same way as, say, Vinny
Barbarino from Welcome Back, Kotter. And the former Garden State governor did get off a couple of bon mots last
night, like a joke about why the New Jersey guy is the one who gets asked the question about UFOs. He also had a funny
line about how Ramaswamy is the ChatGPT debater. That said, Christie can be a little grating. Meanwhile, his other
selling point, namely his assertive self-confidence, was largely not on display last night. He was NOT on his game, and
stumbled through several answers. In particular, he appeared to be positively shaken by a question about how New
Jersey's credit rating was downgraded 11 times while he was in office. On the whole, he did not come off as
presidential. It's a 2/5 from us, though he's capable of getting to 4/5 on a better night.
Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC): Scott's case for the presidency is... um... we don't know.
The candidates had numerous opportunities to explain why they are the best choice, and he took none of them.
We watched his 7:57 of talking, and we still have no idea why he thinks people should vote for him. Oh, he's
certainly a Christian (and he quoted the Bible multiple times), a conservative, and a supporter of most parts
of Trumpism. But there are lots of politicians like that. We guess his argument may be one that cannot be stated
openly: I am both conservative and Black, and you can vote for me and then congratulate yourself that you're not
a racist.
Scott is also one of these folks who is particularly prone to talking about desirable goals without expressing any
particular means of getting to those goals. For example, he wants to bring jobs back to America. Fair enough, that is a
good goal. But how? The Senator also said that it would just take another $10 billion to finish Trump's border wall, and
then the immigration problem would be solved. We've written a million words about how the wall will not solve much of
anything, and how it is most certainly not finish-able for just $10 billion. We take from this that the Senator isn't
actually serious about policy, and that he's just pandering. On argument, we bestow 3/15.
On personality, by contrast, Scott's great. He's self-effacing, he has a mellifluous voice and he's got lots of
charisma. If you were going to pick someone on stage to have a beer with, it would likely be him. 5/5 here.
Asa Hutchinson: Hutchinson's argument is... um... again, we don't know. He and Scott were
the two candidates who didn't do anything to make that clear. In Scott's case, as we note, it's at least possible that
he can't say the quiet part out loud. In Hutchinson's case, we just have no idea what is going on. Up to this point, we
thought he was trying to run in the post-Trump centrist lane. But that's not his pitch. Oh, he was as anti-Trump as
anyone on stage was willing to be. But other than that, he leaned into far-right policy positions. Who, exactly, does
Hutchinson think his base is? Far-right never Trumpers? Is Hutchinson the Dick Cheney candidate? On argument, he's a
2/15.
As to personality, Hutchinson certainly isn't likable. There are some former Arkansas governors who just ooze with
charm; Hutchinson is not among them. Indeed, his ostensible Southern twang sounds more Vermont than it does Arkansas.
Meanwhile, we do not know how tall he actually is, but he seemed to be 4 feet tall last night. Every time the camera cut
to him, we were left with the impression of a garden gnome using the podium to pull himself up. This is not to insult his
appearance, but merely to say that he was the opposite of "presidential." Also encouraging that perception was that
Hutchinson let the other candidates walk all over him, such that he had the least speaking time of anyone (7:25).
Hutchinson wasn't actively obnoxious, at least, so we give him 1/5.
Doug Burgum: Burgum's case is "I'm a small-town guy who likes a small government." It
usually takes 24-48 hours for debate transcripts to be posted online, so we don't know for sure, but there was a real
competition for which number is higher: DeSantis utterances of "Florida," or Burgum utterances of "small town." That
said, almost every time Burgum talked policy—use of force against Mexico, building up the military—he
didn't exactly sound like a small-town or small government kind of guy. Muddied messaging, to say the
least, so we think he's a 5/15 on argument.
On a personal level, Burgum was probably the handsomest fellow on stage, and he's got a million-watt smile. Also, he was
debating injured, as he tore his Achilles tendon playing basketball the night before last. He made a good, if obvious, joke
about how he took "break a leg" a little too literally. He's also selling t-shirts that show a person in the famous
Michael Jordan "Jumpman" dunk posture, except with a cowboy hat and boots:
We rather doubt that Burgum can actually dunk a basketball, much less from the free throw line, but it's a nice touch.
In any case, he was a 4/5 on personality.
If we add up the scores, it gives us this de facto ranking of the candidates' debate performances:
Nikki Haley: 18
Ron DeSantis: 10
Doug Burgum: 9
Chris Christie: 8
Tim Scott: 8
Mike Pence: 7
Asa Hutchinson: 3
Vivek Ramaswamy: 2
That's a clear winner in Haley, a better-than-expected performance from DeSantis, a bunch of folks in the mushy middle,
and two train wrecks in Hutchinson and Ramaswamy. That comports pretty well with our general sense of the debate.
We'll spend time tomorrow going through other assessments, and undoubtedly we'll have items tomorrow with some
combination of takeaways and/or winners/losers. We'll probably run some reader comments, too, so if you have 'em,
send 'em along. (Z)
What about the debate bingo? We're about to get to that. First, we'll note that we're not the only ones to have
that idea, which is presumably an indication that a lot of folks worried it would be really boring. Here, among others, are
the bingo games put together by
Politico,
The Washington Post,
New Republic,
and
The New York Post.
We did not know about the others when we put ours together. And we're not bothered by the fact that those other outlets ended up on
the same concept. What we're a little bothered by is that the idea was also used... by the Trump campaign. Here's their version:
It's not very well done. Nonetheless, the fact that we were on the same mental wavelength as Trump 2024, for even a
few minutes... maybe it's time for us to get out of the game. Incidentally, the hand in that photo? Rep. Marjorie Taylor
Greene (R-GA).
The real story here, though, is that the DeSantis bingo card was created for a dinner hosted in Milwaukee by the
Trump campaign the night before last. In addition to the bingo cards, there were all sorts of other anti-DeSantis "party
favors," like cups of pudding (because DeSantis allegedly has
pudding fingers).
So far, this is all fair game—if you can't take a little mockery, then don't run for president. However, a portion
of the
guest list
for the dinner is both concerning and shocking:
Dana Bash, CNN
Shane Goldmacher, The New York Times
Kristen Welker, NBC News
Bob Costa, CBS News
Fin Gomez, CBS News
Dasha Burns, NBC News
Rachel Scott, ABC News
Rick Klein, ABC News
Josh Dawsey, The Washington Post
Rob Crilly, The Washington Examiner
Mario Parker, Bloomberg News
David Chalian, CNN
And the restaurant in question was no
Hungry Heifer;
it was a high-end steakhouse called
Rare (pdf),
where one could easily drop $250 for dinner. Reportedly, the journalists paid their own tabs. Even if that is true,
however, how can it possibly be OK for them to be palling around with people like Jason Miller and Steven Cheung, much
less accepting anti-DeSantis propaganda? Just the appearances here are bad enough they should all be fired. Thus far,
none of the dozen "journalists" appear to have offered a comment, much less an explanation or an apology.
And with that said, it brings us to the results of our little bingo game. We heard 18 of the phrases that appeared on
our cards; here they are in the order they appeared, the candidate who first said them, and the variant we accepted in
those cases where we accepted something other than the actual phrase:
Order
Phrase
First Said By
Variant
1
Joe Biden
DeSantis
2
Economy
DeSantis
Bidenomics
3
Hunter Biden
DeSantis
4
President
DeSantis
5
Inflation
Scott
6
God
Ramaswamy
7
Trump
Pence
8
Deep State
DeSantis
9
Patriotic
Ramaswamy
Patriot
10
Abortion
Hutchinson
Pro-Life
11
Jesus
Pence
12
Liberal
Pence
13
Elites
DeSantis
George Soros
14
1/6
DeSantis
15
Immigration
Ramaswamy
Secure our own border
16
Gender
DeSantis
17
Trans/Gay Agenda
Burgum
Protect women's sports
18
Woke
Haley
N/A
Hillary
N/A
N/A
Socialist
N/A
N/A
Fake News
N/A
N/A
Witch Hunt
N/A
N/A
McConnell
N/A
N/A
Fox
N/A
N/A
Georgia
N/A
There were, incidentally, another 10 phrases we considered and ultimately excluded. Among those 10 were these six,
all of which were uttered multiple times during the debate: China, Obama, crime, Kamala Harris, and tax cuts.
The phrases we DID choose produced a spirited bingo game. For quite a long time, Card 1 was so very close, needing
only a "fake news" for the win. And every card eventually got to being within one spot of victory before Card 4
triumphed in the "O" column upon Ron DeSantis' mention of 1/6:
The debate lasted 2 hours, 45 seconds, which means 121 minutes. Nobody hit the bullseye, but there were three
readers who had the correct card and were within one minute of the correct debate length:
J.B.A. in Vero Beach, FL
J.B. in Portland, OR
E.W. in Oshkosh, WI
There were another three readers who had the correct card and were within 5 minutes of the correct debate length:
J.W. in Helena, MT
R.N. in Cleveland, OH
H.G. in Sarnia, ON, Canada
And the next three best tiebreaker guesses, among those who had the correct card:
M.G. in Stow, MA
D.W. in State College, PA
A.B. in Wendell, NC
Let's call group one the gold medalists, group two the silver medalists and group three the bronze medalists.
Once again, is this silly? Yes. But there's always room for a little more levity in the world. Further, if you look
at the table above, it does suggest a few meaningful conclusions. For example, it's surely not a coincidence that Pence
was the first to mention "Trump" and "Jesus"; it would not be too far off to say he's the "Trump and Jesus" candidate.
Similarly, DeSantis was generally the one to introduce culture wars terms like "Hunter Biden," "Deep State," and
"Elites" (well, George Soros). On the other hand, he stayed away from "Woke," which may suggest that even he knows that
term is not landing. It's also interesting that no prominent Republican besides Trump (well, and St. Ronnie of Reagan)
got a mention, and that maybe Hillary Clinton is losing salience as a boogeywoman.
We put this bingo idea together on a lark, and at the last minute. Next debate, maybe we'll do something similar, but
perhaps a bit more unique, and a bit more amenable to participation. We've already heard from folks who said it caused
them to watch the debate, or else that it made the debate much more interesting, so there is some utility there. (Z)
Donald Trump didn't make too many headlines yesterday, despite his interview with Tucker Carlson. However,
his various legal problems are never far away these days, meaning he's always popping up, even if you'd like to forget
about him. Yesterday, there were a few stories on that front.
To start, and not surprisingly, Mark Meadows and Jeffrey Clark were
both rejected
by U.S. District Court Judge Steve Jones, who said that they most certainly do have to travel to Atlanta this week and surrender themselves.
They may still be able to get their case to federal court, or maybe not; that will be decided on another day.
On that point, reader D.C. in Cuyahoga Falls, OH, who certainly knows better than we do, offers a more proper
explanation of why those two want to change venues:
Meadows and Clark are attempting to move their case to federal court because they want to raise immunity challenges,
claiming "these were official actions as part of my job duties." Public employees receive various degrees of immunity
from criminal and civil charges for actions taken in official capacity. I teach about this very topic in my
Administrative Law and Public Sector HR courses. If they were to successfully move the case, it could potentially narrow
the actions the prosecutors could use as evidence of furtherance of the conspiracy. That said, their appeals are likely
to fail because actions that violate laws typically fall outside the scope of one's job duties. None of the
actions/accusations outlined in the indictment are common job duties of a White House Chief of Staff or environmental
attorney for DOJ.
As far as getting a more favorable jury, that's probably a motivation, but I don't see it as an equally good one. Fulton
County, while certainly Democratic, does have plenty of rural Trumpy areas. Moving it to the Northern Federal District
for Georgia would likely net a few more favorable jurors, but the defense should be able to find at least a handful of
Republican jurors in Fulton County. It's certainly not as bad as Washington, DC, for Trump and his conspirators.
Thanks, D.C.!
Meanwhile, Rudy Giuliani
managed to pull his stuff together
enough to be able to surrender yesterday; he was released on $150,000 bond. Trump lawyer Sidney Powell
also surrendered; she put up a $100,000 bond. Trump, of course, will surrender today, while the remaining
folks have about 36 hours left to take care of business.
And speaking of money, reader J.S. in The Hague, Netherlands, warns us about
this story.
It would seem that Trump is hosting a $100,000 a plate dinner to raise money for America's former mayor.
For your 100 large, you get to participate in an hourlong round-table discussion with the former president
and Giuliani, and then Trump will hightail it and you get to have dinner with just Giuliani. Quite the
bargain. Trump does not generally share money with anyone, and he rarely shares access to his whale donors. Clearly,
he really, really wants to make sure that Giuliani remains squarely on Team Donald.
We shall see what today brings. Trump's surrender will make a lot of newscasts and headlines, but there
likely won't be much to say about it. Perhaps we'll even get a day off from Trump legal news. (Z)
This is barely news, in the sense that approximately 100% of the planet knew it was coming. Since he led a
semi-rebellion against Vladimir Putin's administration, Wagner mercenary group founder Yevgeny Prigozhin has been a dead
man walking. He knew enough not to drink any tea put before him, nor to get too close to any 10th-story windows. It
would seem that his precautions did not preclude boarding an airplane, however. His plane was
shot down,
and the tail may also have exploded, due to a bomb, before the gunfire hit. Either way, the plane crashed and Prigozhin
and everyone else on board was killed.
Although Prigozhin's death is big news, it doesn't change anything in Ukraine, as the White House
noted yesterday.
Prigozhin was out of power, and his failure taught other would-be rebels not to try their chances.
The Wagner group will continue, but under more loyal leadership, while at the same time conducting
operations much farther away from Moscow. And Putin remains in power, at least for now. (Z)